Carla Melfe – Archetypes in relationships


It’s the details that make the difference. The perspective that I present is based on knowledge acquired in my studies in Evolutionary Astrology, although my basis of interpretation is Modern Astrology. Relationships are undoubtedly something that is important to our happiness, starting with the relationship base: with ourselves.

“No archetype can be reduced to a simple formula. It is a container that we can never empty or fill. It exists in itself only potentially and when it takes shape in some matter, it is no longer what it was before. It persists through the millennia and always requires new interpretations. Archetypes are the unshakable elements of the unconscious, but they constantly change in form.” – Jung

1. Why consider the planets Venus / Mars and Vesta / Juno asteroids so special in relationships astrology

We are not only people, with body, flesh, ego, mind, emotions, but also we are spirit, conscious and unconscious parts navigate in us, in an amalgam, with several energetic bodies, astral, several identities, and yet we are all this and nothing … We have needs, and in an astrological perspective, asteroids help to understand other parts, not always visible, unconscious, in the various facets, in the various nuances that are in us. They come and go … In the solar system we have the Sun in the center, the main focus, which in a simplistic way would be “who we are”, our identity. The questions we ask ourselves usually tend to come down to trying to understand why we / someone behave like a gate, or why we do what we do. And every time an asteroid is discovered there is a greater potential for discovering the depth of our wholeness. Some are quite complex, bringing us some insight … although there is the danger that we want something external to confirm what we want, or illuminate our deepest desires.

The level of consciousness of the individual is also important.

– In the first state, the consensual, there is little autonomy; the individual is governed according to the collective mind, ruled by Saturn.

-In the second state, the individual is on the level of individualization, and free will is already present, not much beyond the former, he exists, but the perception of his free will is not exactly strong, since in general, the individual remains quite attached to social conventions, ruled by Uranus.

And finally, in the third state, the most spiritual state, in which there is already something new, created by itself, beyond what is socially, for beyond free will the level of consciousness is much greater, continually expanding, where the cause – reaction manifests itself through more avatar consciousness, and then with greater responsibility, from whence the whole is seen as the general plan, ruled by Neptune.

From the law of correspondence, we can understand who we are. What is above is like the one below. What is inside is like what is outside. 

It means that what is above (the conscious) is like what is below (the subconscious) and what is inside (the emotions generated by the idea put in the subconscious) is like what is outside (result in the physical world generated by the universe based on the emotions and vibrations generated by the body, following the subconscious). The perspective changes according to the frame of reference. The perspective of the Earth usually prevents us from seeing other domains above and below us. Our attention is so focused on the microcosm that we do not perceive the immense macrocosm around us. The principle of correspondence tells us that what is true in the macrocosm is also true in the microcosm and vice versa! In relationships, being well resolved is a reflection of the context of the man / woman relationship (or other orientations).

2. Why to use and how to use the asteroids

We are part of every asteroid just as the asteroid is part of us. The complexity of the human being is the complexity of the whole, and in addition, all are in us whether we recognize them or not.

The asteroids are concentrated in an orbit whose average distance from the Sun is about 2.1 to 3.2 astronomical units, between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. This region is known as the Asteroid Belt, which is a source of small bodies. However, within this belt are several bands that are practically empty (they are called Kirkwood Gaps), that correspond to zones of resonance where the gravitational attraction of Jupiter prevents the permanence of any celestial body.

To know one self is to know the nature of the Universe and of God, of the Creator. So why not add more color and texture to our understanding of who we are by using some asteroids we already know?

See the energy in which they vibrate, in what form and in what area they bring us news!

Adding asteroids to the chart is bringing new information. We can verify whether they enter stelliums, or not, in which house they are, in which sign, whether they are alone or in tight aspect with our luminaries, inner planets, exteriors or angles, using a 3-orb for larger aspects, and a orb of 1 degree, for minor aspects.

“Asteroids act as a more personal agent of the processes of change that are consciously initiated and experienced internally.”

Goddess Astrology Re-visioned, Gary P. Caton

3. The four archetypes, three feminine, one masculine

I have chosen these four stars as archetypes for rehearsing in various charts that are most present, their subtle differences and being applied in the love relationship between men and women, and how a relationship can imply commitment, are also the most associated with the connection between two beings.

Archetype (from the Greek ἀρχή – arche: “tip”, “top position”, “principle”, and τύπος – typós: “impression”, “mark”, “type”) is the first model or image of something, about something. It is a concept explored in several fields of study, such as Philosophy, Psychology.

Entry into the psychological archetypes is a tool that functions as a metaphor in our stories. He could have chosen others, after all there are so many; Poseidon, Hermes, Apollo, Hephaestus, Hera, Diana, Hades … however I considered Juno, Vesta and Venus as the feminine archetypes (ying) most related to the relationship with the other in partnership, and Mars as male archetype of desire , virility, representing the masculine (yang).

According to the Swiss Carl Gustav Jung, creator of the term, archetypes are sets of primordial images in our imaginary, which give meaning to the stories passed down through the generations, serving to represent knowledge in the unconscious.

A male planet, outer, Mars, ruler of Aries and Scorpio, a female planet, interior, Venus, regent of Taurus and Libra, and two asteroids as a complement, Vesta and Juno.

What happens when the feminine is satisfied and nourished and when the feminine is at war, or injured with the masculine?

3.1 VESTA (the priestess)

Vesta represents the question of understanding. This includes commitment to work and relationships. Where is the commitment? Where do you focus your energies? This asteroid, Vesta, was discovered by German astronomer Heinrich Wilhelm Olbers on March 29, 1807. In the main asteroid waist, it has a diameter of 503 kilometers, and an orbital period around the sun of 3.63 years. Consisting of basalt surface has reflectivity, and a spectral curve that is only the brightest of the asteroid waist, visible to the naked eye in the dark of the skies.

From the mythological point of view Vesta, or Hestia to the ancient Greeks, is better known as the “goddess of the fireplace” and the keeper of the sacred flame. Vesta chose to remain a virgin, refusing to marry Apollo and Poseidon.

Each house, as well as the public places with oven in each city, had a sanctuary for this Goddess, protector of the family. To the Romans, the priestesses of the temples guarded the fire, not only as an element, but something sacred to the ancients. Whenever the Greeks emigrated to foreign lands, they carried a portion of the fire of their house with them as a connection to their homeland. Similarly, the women who left their family to follow a new one through their marriages brought part of the fire of their mothers’ house to their new home. The flame lit in the shrine to Vesta was part of the house of a happy married couple. The Romans built dedicated temples that contained “eternal fire” at their center, believing that they helped secure the empire. The most beautiful and noble maidens were chosen as divine agents (vestal virgins) to keep the sacred flame. This service began at age of six. Then they vowed to have chastity and celibacy that were in effect for the duration of their service for 30 years. Only then could he allow himself to go away to marry, though apparently few would. If a priestess left the fire to leave, she could be severely beaten. If she broke the primary vow of chastity it would not only be scourged but buried alive in an underground crypt. Due to the rigor of their vows and limited lifestyle, they gained tremendous respect, enjoyed many privileges in Rome. Unlike other women, they got out of parental control and could own their own property.

In return, for his righteous services, he was given great reverence, respect and honor. In addition to the strict vow of chastity, in the Romans, Vesta already comes from pre-Hellenic origin, and in Greece the functions were of a different nature. The primary deities were based on the great mother-goddess, personified by the Moon and represented by the sacred flame, symbolizing kundalini, sacred fire, and knowledge of secrets of sexual transmutation powers. The women here in this role were known as virgins but participated in various rites of a sexual nature as an act of divine service. In other words, their existence was not only to keep the sacred fire at home, but largely associated with sexual ritualism. Of course, the symbolism between fire and passion is far from subtle. But today, at this time, these women would not be associated with virgins.

Astrologically, Vesta contains elements of both the virgin and scorpion signs. Vesta in the virgin sign is represented by the pure, dedicated virgin, and in scorpion is associated with sex and passion. In ancient Assyrian and Babylonian cultures, these two constellations of the zodiac were linked being represented by a serpent. As we culturally became patriarchal, the balance sign was placed between them, representing not surprisingly, relationships and marriage. In the combination of virgin and scorpion, Vesta is linked to devotion in one way, and fanaticism in another. It also represents an indicator of attitudes associated with sex, particularly at a visceral level and subconscious level, which are not confined within the limits of a traditional or monogamous relationship. This is the realm of sexual fantasies and desires that are far beyond the limits admitted by society as we know it. Subconsciously, these desires are not only seen as promiscuous, but also, the ritualistic expression as service. Social norms, however, can instill a strong sense of guilt in a Vesta-type individual, who is committed to exploring the immense sexual universe.

On the downside, Vesta may influence opposite behavior, such as sexual repression, fears, or the inability to share with others or to remain closed to relationships. Such challenges in expressing these energies could be the result if it is retrograde. The ability to concentrate on a specific task is also influenced by the Vesta placement in the astrological house. In close to the virgin, work, ethics and is meticulous to approach problems of any kind, with strategy, automating daily a simple work.

Vesta can convert sexual energy into a solid commitment, in dedication to a job and often operates in this way in those dedicated to spiritual evolution or service-oriented missions such as certain religious orders. Such energy is also felt in the pursuit of enlightenment.

In a less dramatic way, Vesta also influences the path that each of us in taking the path to fulfill the dharma, or mission of life.

“After awakening to the journey, the mystic must focus his newly inflamed spiritual flame inward, away from the distractions of the outside world, so that the divine life can be born. This is a self-simplification process. It is accomplished by a cleansing of the senses followed by a purification of the will and emotions. With the resulting clarity, the mystic can “see”, unadulterated by disturbing thoughts and feelings, the pure essence of the Divine. ” (In Astrodienst)

Vesta, as the goddess of the sacred flame, represents the spirit’s ardent desire to look inward and focus this flame on transformation. Demetra George (in which source document?) points out, “As a principle of focus, Vesta gathers energy and brings to a single point bringing clarity and enlightenment.” It is through the clarity and focus of attention that this virgin goddess protects the inner flame of spirituality, allowing the purging work to cleanse the soul in preparation for the next step. Vesta in the horoscope elucidated where and how to focus our internal flame of self-transcendence.

In synastry, or in the analysis of astrological compatibility, the aspects between Vesta in the letters of the individuals involved and the other planets, indicate the nature of their sexual relationships, attractiveness, their expectations or the deepest desires as to an intimate relationship may imply. For example, contact with planets such as Venus or Mars will intensify sexual attraction, while contacting with planets like Saturn can cause excessive reserve or even cool the connection. In other words, the Vesta meaning in astrology is allotted to complexity in how their roles in different cultures, which reflect the power of sexual transmutation within our Life!

Keywords: Vesta: Goddess of the Holy Flame; symbolizes the inner fire that purifies; protects and nourishes the inner flame of spirituality; solitary; guardian of sacred space; the beauty that generates beauty, the eternal light; the cosmic principle that unites families; foundation; virgin single the circle; essence of Si; the one who knows what he likes; meditation.

3.2 JUNO (the wife / queen)

Juno (Hera), wife of Zeus, is the asteroid of conventional relations, just like marriage. This goddess reveals any issues of justice and injustice within the marriage partnership.

“One of the most famous mythical portraits of infidelity is the marriage of Zeus and Hera, classics king and queen of the gods. Here we find not only a triangle, but a succession of them, for Zeus is the archetype of the betraying husband, and Hera the jealous wife. His conjugal life is a catalog of cases, tempered with jealousy, revenge, and illegitimate children; however, somehow, their marriage survives.”  — Liz Greene (in which source document?)

It also describes the true ability of committed and committed relationships. Are you a person who yearns for a marital union or prefers to be free and extravagant? If Juno is prominent on the birth chart, marital and domestic happiness is likely to be important in his life. Her shadow is the fear of abandonment, of being alone. The sense of the fulfillment of life is seen strongly by the formation of a family.

“Traditionally, the final stage of the mystical journey is preceded by a challenging phase described as ‘The Black Night of the Soul.’” Since the Divine was experienced in enlightenment, there is often a time when this spiritual presence vanishes. The depression of abandonment follows. With devotion and continuous focus, the mystic can overcome this spiritual obstacle and progress along the way. Union with the absolute culminates the psycho-spiritual journey. This is described as the spiritual marriage by which mystique transcends your personal ego creating harmony and balance in your soul. As a result, it becomes one, psychologically and spiritually, with the Divine. The mystic “died” for his “lower self” and lives through the Divine.

Juno, as the goddess of marriage and marriage, can easily be seen as corresponding to this final stage. His archetype transcends the personal ego and attains union with the other. In this respect, it represents mystical marriage. It symbolizes the yearning for a complete mystical union that is emotionally and psychologically satisfying. ”

Juno in the horoscope points to where and how one can transcend the personal ego and attain union. ” (In Astrodienst)

Example of a woman with strong Juno: Angelina Jolie

Depending on the location (astrological house) and sign:

  • For a Man, it represents the woman with whom he intends to commit.
  • For a Woman, it represents the kind of woman we are in the “theater” of our society.

Some things to keep in mind:

  • Juno / Mars: need for freedom
  • Juno / Saturn: seriousness
  • Juno / Venus: beauty, refinement

Lasting love springs from the eternal impossibility of possessing the other completely.

In synastry, good partnerships are presented in aspects: Juno / Sol / Venus / Vesta.

The more we understand the struggle between commitment and freedom, the more able we are to deal with this tension within us. In that case, we will be less likely to reach the extremes of an unbridled Zeus or a “whining” Hera.

Keywords: Goddess of marriage; symbolizes the principle of transcending oneself to achieve the mystical union by becoming one with the absolute; to overcome separation through union; equality; dependency; fear of abandonment; power delivery; subtle manipulation; the Queen; personal power; passive aggressiveness; commitment.

3.3 VENUS (the lover)

The Goddess of beauty and sensual love can have many facets. It has many features in common with Ishtar, the Goddess of love of the ancient cultures of the Middle East. Like Ishtar, Aphrodite was identified with the planet Venus, and with the evening and morning star. The dark side of Venus brings us behaviors that not exactly love. And it reveals us much about our heart. When we choose to enter the basement, and discover our dark side, hidden, secret or renegade, we are making the hero’s journey.

Why do we go back there? What is there in this place that frightens us and at the same time attracts us? The Gods and Goddesses, who are so radiant and powerful, are all within us. Between the soul and the flesh. And it has nothing to do with our sex; we possess qualities of both Gods and Goddesses.

There are parts in us that have sometimes been forgotten, have been placed in “stand-by” however this search, the decision to enter a place that we do not know, brings with it harmony. Not immediately, not immediate, but the possibility of integrating into our persona, that which sabotages us and of knowing ourselves in another totality, in the good and the less good.

According to Hesiod, Venus / Aphrodite (from aphros, meaning foam) was born from the foam formed by the cut member of Uranus, which Cronos cast into the sea after having castrated his father. Associated with the satisfaction of the senses, in contrast to Hera, emblem of conjugal love. Accompanied by Eros (love), Imeros (the desire) and the Hours, daughters of Themis, Goddess of the order of the sexes, inscribed in nature, was adorned, and as soon as she presented herself on Olympus, everyone wished to have her as his wife. However, the Goddess of beauty married the least beautiful of the Gods. Hephaestus. It maintained varied relations. Ares / Mars, God of War, father of his children, beautiful Harmony, Fobo (fear), Deimos (terror) and, secondly, also Eros and Anteros (love reciprocated). Many Goddess lovers were also mortal.

In the story of Pygmalion, the Goddess moved with such devotion made the statue that the King loved, alive. There is always something touching about your actions.

Venus in its cycle, as an inner planet, when it enters the Sun and Earth, becomes retrograde inviting to review, recognize parts of us, go to our sleeping patterns and transcend if we are willing to sail in unknown territory. From stagnation to transformation. Something exciting. Where retrogradation takes place implies a revision of this area of ​​life. For example, in my case Venus Rx in 2018 went through house 12, there being a recollection, a mystical connection, a desire to penetrate more and more into the invisible world.

Are 40 days…. Cycles 8 years, back to the same sign. We can think of 8 back then. Local. Where we connect People. Who. Needs. Then we went into the basement. In the cave. In the dark. In the world of fears. Find a motive and work an intention. At times it may seem like torture. Let us submit to this journey. Let’s get into the darkness. From our heart. Medicine. Something that resembles a Shamanic ceremony. The collective unconscious and the morphological fields.

When we heal a part of the collective, the whole also advances. And how does this transformation occur? In deadly silence. There are insights, something Scorpionic, alchemy occurs in the encounter with our limitations … feel … recognize what must be done. Being able to spend time with God, Gods, and we can come back regenerated, healed. Between the entrance and the exit … do not project, do not promise, let it flow.

And instead of seeing Venus as the planet of partnership and marriage, I see it now as representing sacred sexuality. By transforming sexuality into the domain of Mars (the masculine), we ignore or suppress the ancient roots of Venus as the goddess of fertility and eroticism, and the connection between the two: When the Goddess was well satisfied sexually, through her priestesses who incorporated the Divine Feminine, then the earth would be fertile!

“Deeper sensuality, seeks more sexual intensity, does not want superficialities, wants to fulfill their desires and pleasures, jealousy, possessive, affective morbidity, resentments or wants to spiritualize love, idealizes union, erotic dreams, transforms relationship, affective or financial. Use sex to have what you want. He is interested in investments, relationships with personal interest, attracts gifts, gifts, benefits, through other people, and knows how to evaluate.”(Source?) 

In Knowledge of the Future

Keywords: beauty; eroticism; revenge; sensations; delivery; please, love.

3.4 Mars (the warrior)

Mars, known as the God of War, regent of Aries (masc.) and co-regent of Scorpio (fem.) Represents action, instinct, will to conquer, form of acting, sexuality. The strength of the warrior and the ability to assert myself in the world aggressively, as he prefers to fight, whether he is a coward or a hero, is worth fighting, and in what way – this is Mars on the map.

In Greek mythology like Ares, he is hated by other Gods, he loved conflicts and bloodshed.

But Mars, in Roman mythology, he is the leader; it is the planet that brings us vitality. To fight for what we want. But the ways of acting are different, of course, depending on where Mars lies. Each of us has Mars in a sign, which functions as a tool, whether by perseverance, whether we are signs more planners, or terrain; others by seduction, are the people who know how to deal with feelings and manipulation, sensitive or emotional signs. For example, if Mars is in cancer, its function is very delicate, it moves according to the affections, with affection, it is the feminine look of the subject, it protects itself, and to whom it loves. It is the great power to put feelings as the motor of conquest and disputes.

And others get more through the conversation, are more mental, more strategic, act for flexibility and communication.

And finally, those that go with the heart, with soul, with adrenaline, more competitive and fiery signs.

“Modern astrology holds that trans-saturnines will only powerfully influence a soul that to some extent has awakened to spiritual truths.” – Stephen Arroyo (Source text?)

Mars also tells us how we deal with aggression. There are those who are direct, there are those who are more lateral…. Others are touched more by emotions, others by results. The war for war, for the pleasure of conquest, or the war to keep the peace.

To realize what moves us is to be able to extract from its warrior all its potentiality.

4. Conclusion

“The psychological questions posed by asteroids … allow the individual to dissolve the boundaries of consciousness and perceive a reality beyond the illusion of separation to actually find unity.” – Demetra George (Source document?)

The placement of Juno will indicate whether the person is likely to be a dedicated partner or not, but may not disclose the quality of the relationship, the existence of unequal treatment. Sexual magic, intimacy, deep sharing, the alchemical union of the sexes, but also the indifference, the betrayal, the suffering that comes from infidelity.

Vesta on the birth chart will speak of sacrifice and protection, of the duality between freedom and sexual repression, that is, a person who hesitates between celibacy for a time and then is “promiscuous” in a certain period of his life. Sex without marriage, sin, ostracism for being different, puritanical culture. Discrimination, fear, shame but also dedication and clarity, enlightenment and aspiration. If Vesta is afflicted on the map it may be the case of an individual afraid of compromises.

The various people played by Venus are decidedly affected by the sign in which it is, by the cusp of the house, and by its aspects, in fact the Goddess of love, is one of the archetypes that contains all the others.

All these Goddesses, feminine archetypes and Mars are in us, we just have to try to extract the best of each other, to live relationships more congruent with our yearnings and will.

On Olympus, only Aphrodite, Goddess of Love, was able to appease the God of War.

If Venus brings us desires; Mars brings the will, the instinct, the focus, how to achieve the objectives, and starter energy. The placement in the deans(?) also indicates how they are facing, from the inside out. The way emotion is controlled, responsibility, how instinct is managed, is shown by its reaction to the world.

As we nurture, the soul, by the success we achieve and this in relationships means that desire and will are aligned.

If we are together, what is the true intention? From desire, to achievement.

Knowing what we want, but going beyond that, of the physical.

Beyond desire, it is what we construct and reach in the spiritual sense, karmic, dharmic, and see from a general plane. Wake up, and wake up to each other. There is something much greater, the sense of understanding, and when we understand something new that the other brings us, we evolve.

“Love, as they say, makes the world go round. The number of myths that speak of passion and repulsion, marriage and separation, love and rivalry, sexual fidelity and infidelity, and the transcendental power of compassion underscore the central importance of love in our lives. There is no variation around the subject of relationships that cannot be found in world mythology. And because human relations are so complex, the morality presented in the myths is equally multifaceted. There is no enigma greater than mystery because people attract or repel each other, and it is common to seek simple answers to questions that require a great deal of soul effort even to be adequately formulated. The loves and dislikes of the myths appear in many forms and colors, and some are clearly unusual. But while some of these stories question many of our moral assumptions about relationships, love myths also console us of our unhappiness, serve as a guide to our dilemmas, and bring hard-hitting insight into why; in our lives Sometimes we create the dilemmas we create. ” (Source?)

Happiness is a natural thing. Unhappiness is an effort. Grace is part of existence; no one gives it nor takes it away, it´s simply there to feel it.



Bibliography consulted:

Anna M. C. Ribeiro; Knowledge of the Future

Stephen Arroyo; Astrology, Karma and Transformation

Demetra George; Asteroid Goddesses

Liz Greene; A Journey Through Myths

Carla Melfe, ASPAS member, 244 article published in the journal of Portuguese Astrology Association


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